A few weeks ago Stephen Hawking released a paper discussing the black hole information paradox that triggered an intense debate in the scientific community and had a large impact on the public. I have discussed his paper on this blog and I refer to that post for further reference. In short: Stephen Hawking suggested a solution to the black hole information paradox that invokes the existence of apparent horizons and the lack of firewalls. Firewalls of outgoing radiation were proposed a few years ago to resolve the conflict between general relativity and quantum theory that goes under the name of the black hole information paradox. Hawking proposed the lack of firewalls and suggested replacing the notion of event horizon with that of apparent horizon, with Hawking radiation emerging from the black hole in a very chaotic way (so that information is heavily scrambled but **not lost**).

Today a new interesting paper written by P.S. Joshi (TIFR, India) and R. Narayan (Harvard) has appeared online on arXiv, where the black hole information paradox is further discussed. The authors start at the point where Stephen Hawking had left us but highlight a previously overlooked problem in Hawking’s proposal and in the firewall model.

When matter (dust) collapses and forms a black hole, it is usually assumed that the starting configuration is spherically symmetric with the matter density being constant everywhere inside the sphere. In this way, as the matter collapses, the black hole event horizon emerges *before* the singularity. What is it meant by that? In General Relativity, the singularity is the point where the collapsed matter reaches infinite density and where space-time has infinite curvature. As the matter is collapsing, the gravitational field increases and it becomes so intense that an event horizon is created while part of the collapsing matter is still falling inside of the black hole. Such matter is causally disconnected from the outside universe, but it is still moving toward the center of the black hole as it did not have the time to arrive there yet. The center of the black hole does not have a singularity yet, but the density there is rapidly growing. Therefore there is a certain amount of time that elapses between the first appearance of the event horizon and the creation of the singularity.

Joshi and Narayan ask therefore the following question: if Hawking is right, and there is a chaotic behavior at and inside the horizon, then how does the matter know that it should behave chaotically? Indeed at the horizon and inside it, everything seems normal, and local physical conditions have not changed. It could be that the singularity is chaotic, but how can the matter be influenced by the singularity since this has not yet been formed yet? And once the singularity appears, how does the horizon know about it given that no information can reach the horizon from the singularity? Furthermore, suppose that matter is falling spherically as in the example above. Suppose that at some point, while the cloud is still collapsing, the event horizon has formed and it has a certain size **R**. If at that point a light ray is emitted slightly outside **R**, then it is plausible to think that it will escape to infinity. But if there is a shell of mass that is still collapsing** **outside **R**, then the light ray will not diverge to infinity but will stay trapped as if the event horizon were bigger. The size of this event horizon is the one that will form once the new shell of mass has collapsed. It is like the event horizon has already expanded *before* the mass shell has entered the black hole!

It looks like the black hole event horizon somehow “knows” what will happen in the future and that matter will keep collapsing until the event horizon is formed. This strange and very counter-intuitive property of black holes is called the *teleological nature of black holes*. This means that an event horizon depends not only on the past (as we are used to thinking) but also on the entire future history of space-time. This sounds quite paradoxical, doesn’t it?

Joshi and Narayan highlight how both the firewall and the Hawking-chaos solution to the black hole information paradox *both *suffer* *from the teleological problem. According to the authors, the culprit is the cosmic censorship conjecture, which states that no naked singularities exist in the Universe (i.e., every singularity has an event horizon around it). They propose to abandon the cosmic censorship hypothesis otherwise it will unavoidably lead to the conclusion that at the horizon no information can be received about the existence of a singularity from the past, but only from the future.

They then assume that to solve the black hole information paradox with either a firewall or the Hawking-chaos one needs to require that the horizon “knows” about the singularity by receiving information from the *past of the singularity*, as it seems reasonable to think. They proceed then by showing how the collapse of a *non-uniform* spherical cloud of matter, like for example the matter that constitutes a star, naturally leads to the formation of a naked singularity at the very moment and at the same location where the event horizon first appears. In this way, the information about the existence of the singularity is provided throughout the horizon thus solving the teleological problem.

Then, if the naked singularity is somehow chaotic, this chaos can naturally “expand” inside the black hole and lead to the explanation that Hawking gives in his recent paper without the issue of the teleological problem. The same reasoning applies to the firewall: if the firewall appears at the same time and location of the singularity then the teleological problem disappears. So whatever the truth is (firewalls or chaos or perhaps something even more exotic) the teleological problem would be solved. The second black hole war continues…

February 15, 2014 at 2:00 am

I enjoyed your article, but there are quite a few grammatical and spelling errors. It seems to be confusing some people.

February 15, 2014 at 9:04 pm

Hi Ken, thanks. Feel free to send me your suggestions/corrections if you’d like. They’re very welcome.

This blog is an experiment and I’m trying to improve it every day.

June 15, 2015 at 9:50 am

I don’t think there is an information problem. I am afraid everyone is forgetting the scalar field inside the black hole, inspite it isn’t flat there. The huge concentration of energy within the vector field (volume of the black hole) will cause the scalar field at the surface area of the black hole to “radiate” every alteration inside the black hole into the volume of the galaxy. Not as an emission of particles or electromagnetic waves, but as an emission of vectors (like impulse). With other words, those vectors don’t transport energy, they transport “configurations” (quantum states of the fine structure of the vector field). So we can “frame” a black hole as a machine that translates all the local information within the vector field into the scalar field.

May 1, 2019 at 5:43 pm

nice